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Socki
Posted 2010-03-06 1:08 PM (#21813)
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Cannabis and Tobacco smoke are not equally carcinogenic.
http://www.cannabismd.org/foundation/carcinogenic.php


"Furthermore, compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer [9], breast and prostate [10], leukemia and lymphoma [11], glioma [12], skin cancer [13], and pheochromocytoma [14]. The effects of cannabinoids are complex and sometimes contradicting, often exhibiting biphasic responses. For example, in contrast to the tumor killing properties mentioned above, low doses of THC may stimulate the growth of lung cancer cells in vitro [15]. "


so with that in mind. I dedicate this next bowl to my fight of cancer prevention
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Sanguinius
Posted 2010-03-06 5:01 PM (#21825 - in reply to #21813)
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Too bad you can't get around that whole COPD thing, and in fact the higher temperature of weed smoke causes it faster than tobacco products do!

Emphysema, no thanks.
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Socki
Posted 2010-03-06 7:20 PM (#21833 - in reply to #21825)
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Sanguinius - 2010-03-06 5:01 PM

Too bad you can't get around that whole COPD thing, and in fact the higher temperature of weed smoke causes it faster than tobacco products do!

Emphysema, no thanks.


"Cigarette smoking is the leading cause of COPD. Most people who have COPD smoke or used to smoke. Long-term exposure to other lung irritants, such as air pollution, chemical fumes, or dust, also may contribute to COPD. "

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/Copd/Copd_WhatIs.html


granted it says other lung irritants may contribute but cigarette smoke is the leader
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Sanguinius
Posted 2010-03-06 11:32 PM (#21837 - in reply to #21833)
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Socki - 2010-03-06 10:20 PM

Sanguinius - 2010-03-06 5:01 PM

Too bad you can't get around that whole COPD thing, and in fact the higher temperature of weed smoke causes it faster than tobacco products do!

Emphysema, no thanks.


"Cigarette smoking is the leading cause of COPD. Most people who have COPD smoke or used to smoke. Long-term exposure to other lung irritants, such as air pollution, chemical fumes, or dust, also may contribute to COPD. "

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/Copd/Copd_WhatIs.html


granted it says other lung irritants may contribute but cigarette smoke is the leader


Did you even think about the fact that more people smoke cigarettes than smoke weed before you posted that?

That's why it's called a bias!
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Sanguinius
Posted 2010-03-06 11:33 PM (#21838 - in reply to #21813)
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Don't mind my tone, btw.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-07 4:35 PM (#21852 - in reply to #21813)
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Ehh you can get around the higher temperature with an iced water bong. The smoke will probably be a lower temperature than cigarettes. Vaporizers are pretty good so I've heard.

The debate about marijuana and cancer has long been over. It doesn't cause cancer, but it can lead to a lot of problems in the mouth,throat, gums, teeth. Smoking both cigarettes and weed is a double whammy, and worse than smoking either by themselves.
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-10 3:38 AM (#22037 - in reply to #21813)
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Actually, Ice is technically bad as well.

I don't have time to back this up atm but I will tomorrow if the thread is still going.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-12 11:40 AM (#22174 - in reply to #21813)
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lol it might be bad but it feels oh so right
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abu
Posted 2010-03-14 1:42 PM (#22274 - in reply to #21813)
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Well those who smoke marijuana tend to smoke it less often than those who smoke cigs. One may smoke an entire pack a day but only one joint a day, for example. Bongs don't limit the carcinogens that is myth. Pack it with ice, pack it with Vicks...whatever...it's still bad for you.

Your best bet is a vaporizer. Spend the extra money for it, it's worth it. But if you smoke cigs and pot (either by joint or bong) you're increasing already high chances of COPD by about an extra third.

My advice would be to ditch the smokes and use a vaporizer for your pot. And I still find alcohol to be worse than pot, so if it is legal than pot should be too. But don't think that any method of any drug is safe or tame.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-15 12:54 AM (#22307 - in reply to #21813)
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Part of me just likes burning shit into my lungs, I know that's a horrible thing to say.

And yeah Alcohol is a terrible drug. It can be very fun, I used to have an insane empty liquor bottle collection. The dumbest shit I ever did I was drunk. I never really did anything dumb after smoking pot. In fact I've pulled off some pretty good stunts while high. Regardless people should use anything with caution. I've smoked a lot and I still geek out sometimes. The paranoia can be overwhelming at times. It becomes a mind over matter game. My mind wins, a lot of peoples don't
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Krytar
Posted 2010-03-15 12:23 PM (#22330 - in reply to #22307)
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I let my dog eat my weed, then I smoke his turds and usually end up howling at the moon by 7 0 7 pM
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-15 9:35 PM (#22357 - in reply to #22330)
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Oh those weren't nuggets your dog was eating, they were mushrooms
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-16 3:19 AM (#22371 - in reply to #21813)
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I remember being like 14 and high, we would go walk around the neighborhood, late night. We had a friend that always got paranoid, he would start walking in yards and go hide on random peoples porches every time he saw a car or heard a noise. It was hilarious, we didn't really help the situation though but we were young and he was funny!

We had another friend that was way worse. One of those guys that just tries way to hard to be cool and end up hated because of it.

We bought this pipe from the cd store and it came with legal herbs to smoke. Well, we told him they were shrooms(lol) and he would get super fucked if he smoked them. So we did it and acted like we were losing our minds and then he did it to be cool. That kid was going nuts, claiming tree's were making love and the power line poles were trying to strike him with power lines like a whip. Oh man, I mean he just went all out. You'd think after nothing was really happening that he would have figured out we were fucking with him. Instead he just went nuts and thought everything was awesome and doing some crazy shit.

I sometimes wonder if he really had some sort of placebo effect but in my mind, he just wanted to be cool so badly that he wanted to act like we were. I remember kinda feeling bad when we told him it wasn't real, he was trying so hard. =(
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-16 10:00 AM (#22399 - in reply to #21813)
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LOL good story.

I've geeked out really bad before. I was 100% sure someone was going to blast through my apartment door and shoot me dead. It wasn't from smoking weed though. Don't do crystal meth
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-16 9:51 PM (#22443 - in reply to #21813)
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I never geek out like that, I suppose I've had elevated awareness at times but I never freak out on things. I tend to somehow stay calm while still pumped in fucked up situations though.

I mean I'm not like stone hearted, when I get pulled over at first my heart feels like it's trying to get loose but by the time I need to be calm and collective, I am.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-17 10:23 AM (#22478 - in reply to #21813)
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Shit man I'm more nervous when I get pulled over and I'm sober. Marijuana don't make me geek too bad. It depends on the type of bud, and how potent I guess. Some weed is real mellow and some gives you that head buzz that geeks you out. I like smoking middle of the road pot, it's not too dirty, and not too pricey. It's just right
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Ken
Posted 2010-03-17 6:50 PM (#22571 - in reply to #21813)
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How did I know Aero would post on this thread.... lol god im so smart
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abu
Posted 2010-03-17 8:36 PM (#22579 - in reply to #22571)
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Yeah that's makes you the master of the obvious. That's akin to you winning a spelling bee against first graders. You awesome guy...way to go champ!
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-17 10:46 PM (#22583 - in reply to #21813)
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\o/ for Ken...
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-18 8:02 AM (#22607 - in reply to #21813)
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lol Ken prolly has to drink Alize with a chaser
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-24 2:37 AM (#23199 - in reply to #21813)
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While we're on the subject. Whats your favorite drink?

Mine is a liquid cocaine.

1 part jegar
1 part goldschlager
1 part bacardi 151

it's supposed to be a shot but I usually put 2 shots of each in a glass and sip on it.

BTW

I took your advice abu and bought a vaporizer(vapor borthers vaporizer) and it's amazing. I even bought a new water pipe and I haven't touched it, the vaporizer is way better in almost every way. Only thing it's lacking is the big hoot feel when you take a big hit. You can't feel the vaporizer much until it's too late and you're hacking your ass off. After one hit it becomes clear how to deal with it and man, life will never be the same... Cheers Abu =P

p.s. christ this place is active, first time in ever I haven't had time to go through every thread!
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abu
Posted 2010-03-24 9:44 PM (#23274 - in reply to #23199)
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Yeah they are awesome. Best one I could recommend is the Zepher Ionizer. Although I've never heard of the brand you have Beu I'm sure it's a decent one they are a pretty simple design so pretty much all the same just a matter of assesories (sp?) and ease of clean.
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Glamdring
Posted 2010-04-01 12:11 PM (#23737 - in reply to #23199)
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Jameson's, neat. And a good cigar.
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abu
Posted 2010-04-01 6:50 PM (#23763 - in reply to #23737)
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My fav cigar is a Padron aged two years after the plume first develops. Best with Scotch.

My second fav is any of the Maker's Mark cigars those things are good standalones and go well with beer.

Beyond that most Maduros will do esp if drinking a seasonal or winter brew.
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Glamdring
Posted 2010-04-02 9:08 AM (#23806 - in reply to #23763)
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I'm a fan of CAO at the moment, and Rocky Patel's 1990/92's rock.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-24 10:33 PM (#23285 - in reply to #21813)
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If I'm out with some girls I'm ordering Red Headed Sluts all around. Jager, Peach Schapps and cranberry juice. If I'm with the boys I'll drink straight cherry vodka, whiskey, jager bombs, cherry bombs, pretty much anything with red bull in it.

If I'm not doing shots it's all about the Corona, no lime real men don't fruit the beer.
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abu
Posted 2010-03-24 11:22 PM (#23291 - in reply to #23285)
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Real men don't drink corona period. Perhaps on a really hot day if you're camping/active/anything else you'd normally be drinking water doing.

Next time drink something like a barley wine or at least an ale. Guiness doesn't do anything for me as it's pretty much stout for the sake of being stout. Only thing Guiness is good for is irish car bombs. Barley wine is stout with flavor and a decent alcohol content.

If you must drink a corona/bud light/etc....lime at least makes it more interesting.
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Posted 2010-03-26 11:44 PM (#23443 - in reply to #23291)
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abu - 2010-03-24 11:22 PM

... Only thing Guiness is good for is irish car bombs.


Blasphemer! It's a meal! Or, I guess it's a decent stout but a better Draught. And it's good for yer heart

or so they say
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-24 11:30 PM (#23292 - in reply to #21813)
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I'm a light weight bro, got to keep it simple. Corona tastes good, I hate light beers, and beers that are too heavy. Everyone in Ohio loves the Great Lakes Christmas Ale. I can't stand the shit. Dortmunder Gold isn't bad. I'll drink a Killians Irish Red every now and then. Red Stripe or Heineken.
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abu
Posted 2010-03-25 7:37 AM (#23298 - in reply to #23292)
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Fair enough, but I'd at least try a barley wine after you've had a few of whatever you normally drink if you're ever at your local micro brew and they happen to have it on tap.
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Sanguinius
Posted 2010-03-25 8:22 AM (#23305 - in reply to #21813)
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Dogfish head IPA 120 is where it's at.
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Glamdring
Posted 2010-04-01 12:10 PM (#23736 - in reply to #23305)
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I have one in Da Beer Fridge, but haven't popped it yet. Sticking with the 90 Minute for now.
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Aero
Posted 2010-03-25 8:34 AM (#23306 - in reply to #21813)
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Alright I'll check it Abu.

Dogfish Head ain't bad pretty sure I've had that one.
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-25 6:33 PM (#23350 - in reply to #21813)
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The vapor brothers works, I couldn't imagine how it could be any better. It's got hydrator kits and adapters for water pipes and everything as well.

I can't stop smoking without it now.
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abu
Posted 2010-03-25 8:46 PM (#23354 - in reply to #23350)
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Yeah not all of them come with the various adapters some have em but you have to buy all the extra crap separate. Sounds like what you have there got ya set up well enough if not perfectly.
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Beumac
Posted 2010-03-26 12:42 AM (#23384 - in reply to #21813)
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I haven't bought anything extra yet. It just came with the whip/bowl and the vaporizer and this aroma bulb you can put oils in to make your house smell good!

Fully functional but none of the special stuff yet.

I want to buy the stupid EZ change kit but it's 50 bucks lol. I'd also like to try the ceramic screens. The EZ change kit would make getting the vapor honey a lot easier and also I would be able to keep it cleaner.
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Glamdring
Posted 2010-04-02 9:34 AM (#23807 - in reply to #21813)
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Kids these days have it lucky! We had to walk uphill, in the snow, with no shoes on to get to the dealers house!

Here's a brief history lesson for all you smokers out there.

Back in the day, pot was sold in a measurement known as a "lid". These cost $15 and were of varying quality and quantity. They were usually around an ounce, but the true measure of a lid was how many fingers it measured. A 5 finger lid was the most coveted. Stems were the biggest enemy then, as they added mass without adding anything useful.

Back in those days homegrown was at the bottom of the potency scale, with the upper range belonging to "Panama Red", "Mexican Trippin Weed", and "Alcapulco Gold". The true origin of these were in question, as it never looked the same twice.

Then, in the early-mid 70's, all pot went commercial and became "Columbian". And ounce cost $35, and the finger method went out the window. It was of above average potency, and much more uniform than in the past. The biggest enemy became seeds, as they added weight, but not much mass. Scales became commonplace.

Later in the 70's, sinsemilla made its first appearance. It was originally called "Hawaiian", and was sold by the gram. Big money there, but the potency was out of this world. It also marked the beginning of homegrown being desireable, as the method of developing sinsemilla was universal and not too complicated. It also eliminated seeds, which were the biggest headache for any pot smoker. Exploding seeds caused the "inevitable pinhole burns" in satin shirts, etc.

At least, that's how I remember it.

Here endeth the lesson.

PS - I won't even get into paraquat, just google "paraquat pot" to learn what went down with that.
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MilitaryMike
Posted 2010-04-04 6:07 AM (#23962 - in reply to #23807)
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Just smoke Cigars
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Beumac
Posted 2010-04-06 7:57 PM (#24210 - in reply to #21813)
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lol fun post Glam =p
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Posted 2010-05-09 11:49 AM (#26345 - in reply to #21813)
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now kids, don't do drugs mmmm... kay?
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Mayhem
Posted 2010-05-11 12:19 PM (#26437 - in reply to #21813)
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Cancer concerns are nonexistent if you take your medicinals in an edible form - but I am not an expert on these things.

At one gaming company I worked for, we had an NPC with a pot on his head (Actually, several throughout the game) and there was a good chunk of meeting time over whether we should call him the Pot Head Merchant or not. Many giggles were hard...as I'm sure there were as the mushroom/herb descriptions were written.

I also find it funny how in this game our characters "wake up" in a seedy motel room or in a bar and begin waltzing around a world with 8 foot centipedes and walking snails.
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